WowAce

First of all, GREAT JOB, you just made my live easier... Thx alot....

I have two questions tho: - Will you update the Mod with the new TBC calculations on +healing and stuff. - Second I would be really great to see the more info in the Tooltip, like the PowerPoints, EndurancePoints and total Healing Points differences, instead of only the total Healing Points, that we we can see if we can use items in Long fights or better in Short fights...

Thx a lot

I have more than enough with HealPoints, but someone is already working on a TankPoints replacement: http://www.wowace.com/forums/index.php?topic=2640.0

I don't see the kind of funtionality you have in tooltips from this, plus it's FUBar only which I don't, and never will use :(

I love this addon! What makes it over Tank Points current version is the tooltip info, being able to see the change without having the item.

Since Tank Points seem to be a dead addon, any chance you could take over that and add your tooltip functionality to it also?

Wondering if the most recent version of this addon considers druid T3 set bonuses in any way.

4 piece bonus reduces mana cost of healing spells. 6 piece bonus would be kinda weird to implement into a calculator like this, but would be interesting. 8 piece bonus regens extra mana

All in a way of another would change the "healpoints" of a character IMO.

i use the tank points and heal points with my druid and they are both great... Now with my mage they are kinda useless. I get a rough idea with the heal points what gear is better, but it'd be nice to have something specifically for warlocks, mages, shadow priests, etc.

Yes. Counting enchants - please remove or make the checkbox. I cannot compare chest with all stats +4 with a chest without enchants. I have to do it manually every time. Is that a problem? Yes - during raids there is not too much time to enter all of the data manually.

Please make a checkbox like [] Do not count enchants or something, please.

p.s. EDIT - kk, did not see Your post below. thx, m8.

There's no point in including enchants when comparing two items, it's completely pointless.

Also it seems to me you didn't bother to read all my posts and only got half of it. Atm a major functionality, for me at least, is broken.

Just wanted to say that...

And ACE2'ing it would be awesome :)

You can't config this to make Heal over Time spells = zero, so claiming that you made it more customizable so that people could set it how they want is a bit off. You introduced a new vector that is a tangent for very many reasons. With Faith 2 piece, and the right talents you can heal with max rank renew and maxed out +heal gear forever, making it far and away your most efficient spell. It is unfathomable how you can even consider renew into this equation, with the nature of how it ticks and how burst healing needs to keep a tank at full so often. It becomes rather situational.

That's the issue here, at its core Healpoints is only more complex than tankpoints because of additions of unrealistic healing scenarios and lack of customization to pull yourself towards the situation that's proper. It isn't a matter of "pleasing" everyone, its a matter of making a benchmark that is general enough to include all types of healing.

The bottomline is if you have 6 priests on a raid, all 6 of them are not keeping up 3 renews. The only person who *should* be renewing is the one with the most effective renew. Thus, other people can save talent points and bother by not enhancing a spell that they'd rarely cast. That is the point.

The tooltip enhancements in the inventory is a great idea. What I don't understand is how they are rarely accurate? I don't care about the enchant "bug" or issue or whatever, I want my healpoints to be based on whatever enchants and buffs I have. The feature request would be to match the enchants when comparing two items, rather than exclude enchants in total.

But most of the time I compare two items and that value doesn't match and so the feature is shelved for now.

A final issue is the guessing game we have to play when manually tweaking the stats to compare theoreticals in the custom menu. If I add 17 spirit, why doesn't that increase my casting mana regen or normal? Etc. Those numbers should all be linked appropriately, so that we don't have to tweak each stat to reflect the net gain of the stat. Maybe they are, again I can never tell because I put the item on and it never matches the theoretical +healpoints I should have gained.

My guild and most of my friends have reverted back to 1.10, less bloat and irrelevance.

I don't understand why you would want to remove buffs specifically?

It's easy to just input the deficit in the stats in the third frame of the healpoints window, so why?

Just because you want to compare one item you're thinking about equipping with an already equipped item? You want to remove all buffs calculations from all items for that?

In my opinion that's wrong.. any 'points' system should be two-fold... to be able to compare one item against another to see how it would affect the whole.. and to be able to compare one character to another.

This would affects both to its detriment..

K.

I looked around in the BS files and it seems to be somewhat easy to remove the enchant scanning. It's sufficiently documented to recognize what functions scan for enchants and such, then it's just tracking down where they are referenced and remove that.

The problem is that, do you want only to not scan enchants when comparing with other items or do you you want to remove it completely? The first option would be best, but certainly the second option is better than it is now if it would be faster :)

At the moment when looking at items, HealPoints includes enchants. That means that HealPoints is mostly useless when looking at an item with an enchant on them and comparing it to a better item with no enchant on them. Items should be compared at their raw stats, without enchants.

This should be fixed :)

Yeah, that's what I did regarding regenpoints, just zeroed it out.

I hope you'll agree with me regarding the time issue and that it shouldn't be configurable. If you do that and switch current powerpoints with "tot HP (+r)" and use that as powerpoints, and use the time derived from "tot HP (+r)" to use in Endurancepoints, I feel you'd give people a much clearer picture of how items and stats compare to one another (reasoning to be found in the earlier comments).

K.