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This project is abandoned and its default file will likely not work with the most recent version of World of Warcraft. Whether this project is out of date or its author has marked it as abandoned, this project is no longer maintained.

NEWS

v1.3.0: Incorporated a more comprehensive approach to default profiles.

If you wish to use the new default profiles, you can flush your profiles and get all the new default profiles by typing

/consider resetall

and then visit the bank to rescan all your items. Remember to set your active profiles again in the options. This will also destroy any custom profile changes.

v1.2.0: Performance enhancement to improve framerates in certain situations.
v1.1.0: Added checkbox for "Use Epic Gems?" in Considerater option panel. When toggled, Considerater will fill in the top-scoring epic gems where applicable.

Upgrading users are advised to type "/consider refresh" and visit their bank to re-score their items.

Considerater

An add-on that considers an item against all the items you have to determine whether or not it is an upgrade. Scores are computed for an item based on profiles which weight each stat according to relative importance.

There are many pre-defined profiles, which can be edited, or you can create a new one. To avoid taking up too much compute time, only "Active Profiles" will be used for scoring. See the Add-on Interface Options panel for all these details.

Considerater will scan your bank, bags, and inventory whenever you open your bank frame. So if it is your first time loading it, be sure to get to the bank to fill up your item cache.

Considerater will automatically determine the best gem choices according to each profile and will score items as if they had those gems inserted. This should make comparisons between pieces of gemmed and ungemmed gear relatively fair.

Type "/consider help" in game to see the command-line options.

Type "/consider" alone to bring up the Considerater graphical user-interface for comparing items.

Type "/consider [link]" with an item linked to add that item to the list of items considered by the graphical user-interface.

The idea for this add-on came about when I started re-specing my character on a nearly daily basis between four different playstyles. Each requires different sets of gear, and it was getting difficult to remember what I had in my bank and what was considered better for each spec. I relied on the useful website LootRank.com, but I needed something that would be able to quickly make comparisons on the spot, and only with the gear I had or was considering. So, I would consider this add-on to be a combination of ideas from LootRank.com and add-ons like BankItems.

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_ForgeUser1812642
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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Curious. I cannot reproduce it as described, after installing Fubar and Autobar. Can you post a list of your other add-ons too?

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
When I log in with Considerator enabled, it does this:

[2008/12/23 19:38:05-332-x1]: StatLogic-1.0-?:43: Cannot find a library instance of AceLocale-2.2.
AutoBar-v3.00.03.11 beta.708\libs\AceLibrary\AceLibrary.lua:490: in function `AceLibrary'
StatLogic-1.0-?:43: in main chunk

[2008/12/23 19:38:18-332-x1]: Considerater-0.1\Core.lua:745: attempt to index global 'StatLogic' (a nil value)
Considerater-0.1\Core.lua:950: in function `DirtyBagWorker'
Considerater-0.1\Core.lua:959: in function `f'
Considerater-0.1\Workqueue.lua:23: in function `DoWorkQueue'
Considerater-0.1\Core.lua:662: in function `OnUpdate'
<string>:"*:OnUpdate":1: in function <[string "*:OnUpdate"]:1>

When I turn off Autobar, it does the same thing, but with Fubar. I can't do without those, is there any way to resolve the conflict?

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
HolySheepy: I did find a quest that -- although it lists "Rewards" in the gossip window -- apparently doesn't actually have links for them, so that was causing a bug. Maybe that was causing your error too.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Great! Sounds like you had some poorly configured saved variables caused by an earlier (maybe alpha) version. Are you a Death Knight by any chance? There was a bug pre-0.4beta that may have caused that issue. I'm testing it on my Death Knight alt now.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
The add-on can only see bank items when you visit your bank, so it initiates a full scan then. It also does a small scan when you equip items, move items, or receive items in your bags.

The full scan is a relatively intensive operations so I only have it automatically performed when you open the bank. I figured most people visit the bank at least once per day, so that would be a good time. The full scan covers the entire bank, all your bags, and your equipped gear.

Admittedly, I'm not sure how to handle the case where a person never visits their bank. I could have it scan the bags upon login, but that could be a severe annoyance, even when running in the background. I will think about it some more.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
ok i did the resetall and all the profiles showed up thank you for that!! i was going crazy thinking this just didn't work at all.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
just curious why this only works at the bank? i don't store any gear in the bank.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Ok I'm pushing another beta, 0.5, which has some fixes, in particular it should hopefully put all guns, bows, wands, etc under Ranged now. And there shouldn't be anymore spurious messages about profiles being changed. There is now an option to show zero-score items such as trinkets with special effects that cannot be quantitatively scored as is.

NB: if you want to revert back to the pristine configuration there is a command "/consider resetall" which does this. Keep in mind this will destroy any custom profile changes and return to the default ones distributed with the add-on. It will set your active profiles to the ones for your class. You'll want to visit your bank afterwards, of course, to re-evaluate your items.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
From the Main Menu, go to your Interface Options panel, look under Addons, and make sure that Considerater has some Active Profiles selected.

The main description (above) of this add-on pretty much covers all the info you need to know, though. It will scan your bank and bags when you visit the bank.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Well i logged into day and i still don't see anything. i guess i just don't understand how this works. does it only work with items i have in my bag and bank? will it work on items in the ah? do i need a separate library or something to make it work? Really need a guide or something to explain these things.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
I am using the one that comes with the curse client. .04 beta. i just updated again today so i will check in game and see if it works now.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Not sure about the Auto Loot thing. I didn't observe that behavior. As for the message, that's a known issue I'm looking into. Doesn't hurt anything, though.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Hello again,

One thing I've noticed (0.4 beta) is that whenever I login/logout my Auto Loot option in Interface/Controls gets set to checked. I'm not 100 percent that this is caused by Considerater but it is the only addon I've installed or updated recently. Also when I leave the Interface/Controls menu if I've changed anything I get a chat message "Considerater: Profiles were changed. Please revisit your bank to re-evaluate all your items."

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
I've added a few more ranged-aliases to the latest alpha, so, I think that should cover every type of thing that can fit into the ranged slot.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
The default Rogue PvE profile values agility and expertise the highest, followed by hit and haste, which I feel suits a combat rogue pretty well. But I haven't played my combat rogue past 70, so YMMV. And the profiles are meant to be tailored to whatever you think is best, they are inherently a collection of subjective decisions and compromises.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
As catamorfizm mentioned, ranged weapons don't seem to show all types (bow, crossbow, thrown, gun...) but only like types. I don't see my carried thrown weapon when looking at worn crossbow and vice-versa.

I am still trying to figure out a profile for the first toon I'm trying this on, a combat rogue. The included Rogue PvE profile doesn't score items to equate to manually swapping two items and looking through the character sheet for the best changes I want/need. For instance, Considerator may score an item much higher than another using the Rogue PvE proflie, but the second looks preferable when I do a manual comparison for DPS, AP, Crit, hit rating, defensive stats, etc. I guess I need to understand all of the stats & bonuses better so I can figure out what to adjust in the profile.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
mattbnr: Did you download a beta version or an alpha version? Early alphas may not have profiles for all classes included. Betas do. The add-on functions mostly in the background, and then you can bring up the GUI using "/consider" as written in the description above.

HolySheepy: That is curious, I tested it on such a quest giver explicitly. Which NPC is causing the problem? And perhaps a copy of the error, if you can get it.

I will have to wait until the servers restart to try anything.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
An error pops up when you open a quest-accept thingy where theres a equip item and other non-equip items. Like Boots and Health Potions.

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Posted Dec 23, 2008
Just downloaded 0.4 beta, will give it a shot

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Posted Dec 22, 2008
It's not a big deal because I already anticipated similar problems with weapon: main-hand vs off-hand, for example. Anyway the next beta is tagged and should have that fix plus with the other stuff, whenever Curse gets around to doing its update thing.

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