TankPoints
TankPoints 2.0 - A benchmark for survivalbility gear
About TankPoints
TankPoints was created to help myself compare different pieces of tanking gear, because it was difficult to decided at a glance like whether 12 defense is better then 1 dodge.
TankPoints can be seen as how much damage you can take before damage reduction, it considers your max health, armor, defense, dodge, parry, block, block value, resilience, crushing blow chance, miss, crit reduction, talants, buffs, stance/forms, and more.
Keep in mind though, that higher TankPoints does not make a better tank, it is only a benchmark for survivalbility gear but does not calculate threat. It can not decide for you what you should wear for what boss, but it can provide you with a wealth of information what will hopfully be useful for choosing gear.
About TankPoints 2.0
TankPoints 2.0 is a complete rewrite of my original TankPoints for WoW 2.0 using the Ace2 framework.
It has a much improved TankPoints algorithm, intergrates nicely into the character stats dropdown menu, and shows a lot more information then the original TankPoints.
2.0 introduced a new combat ratings system which made it even harder to compare gear, in order to code combat rating support for TankPoints, the exact rating to percentage formula is required which Blizzard didn't give us. Luckly, I have suceessfully reverse engineered the rating formula for all levels and coded an addon called "Rating Buster" that converts ratings on item tooltips into percentages, you can try it out here.
Rating Buster: http://wow.curse-gaming.com/en/files/details/4991/rating-buster/
How to use
Gravity has writen an awesome 7 page guide to using TankPoints on his blog: http://pwnwear.com/tankpoints-user-guide/
The value of Block
The value is Shield Block Value and Block Rating is highly dependent on what you are tanking.
Its very good for mobs that don't hit very hard like in heroics, but is worth much less on hard hitting bosses in 25 man raids.
At level 80, TankPoints' default mob damage is tuned to 25 man raids, with a value of 24365 damage before mitigation.
You can change this value to match what you plan on tanking by using the "/tp mob damage" command in game.
A mob damage of 10505 for example is a good value for level 80 heroics.
TankPoints also calculates the value of Shield Block for Warriors, and Holy Shield for Paladins.
You can use the "/tp player sbfreq" command to set a shield block frequency that matches your rotation (in how many seconds AFTER cooldown finishes).
For most tankadins rotations, you will have a 100% Holy Shield uptime, using "/tp player sbfreq 1" will tell TankPoints that you will use Holy Shield 1 second after cooldown finishes (every 9 secs)
TankPoints 2.0 Features
Imporved TankPoints 2.0 formula
- Support for all combat ratings including the new resilience stat
- Support for block% and block value
- Support for crushing blows
- Support for combat table and correctly caps off at a total of 100%.
Using Hit < Crushing < Crit < Block < Parry < Dodge < Miss - Support for mob stats:
- Mob level - defaults player level 3
- Mob damage
- Mob melee crit chance
- Mob melee crit bonus
- Mob melee miss chance
- Mob spell crit chance
- Mob spell crit bonus
- Mob spell miss chance
Improved TankPoints Calculator
TankPoints User Interface
- Intergrated in to the Character stats dropdown menu (See Screeshots)
- When TankPoints is selected it displays:
- TankPoints
- Melee Damage Reduction
- Block Value
- Spell TankPoints
- Spell Damage Reduction
- TankPoints tooltip:
- Your stance
- Mob Stats
- Mob Level
- Mob Damage (after damage reduction)
- Mob Crit Chance
- Mob Miss Chance
- TankPoints per StatValue - Shows how much TankPoints you gain for each stats with equal item values, because the values below are equal in the item value formula, you can use this data to see what gives the most bang for the buck in terms of item budgets.
- 1 Agility =
- 1.5 Stamina =
- 10 Armor =
- 1 Resilience =
- 1 Defense Rating =
- 1 Dodge Rating =
- 1 Parry Rating =
- 1 Block Rating =
- 1.54 Block Value
- Option to hold down ALT key will show how much TankPoints you gain for each stat point
- 1 Agility
- 1 Stamina
- 1 Armor
- 1 Resilience
- 1% Defense
- 1% Dodge
- 1% Parry
- 1% Block
- 1 Block Value
- Melee Damage Reduction tooltip:
- Armor Damage Reduction against mob level - Useful because the default armor tooltip only shows the reduction for the same level
- Mob Level, Player Level
- Combat Table - Hit < Crushing < Crit < Block < Parry < Dodge < Miss. The total of these chances must be capped at 100%, if you exceed 100% then lower priority values will be pushed off the table. For example, when you press shield block ( 75% block chance), hit, crush and crit will all be pushed off and will be 0, your real block chance will also be capped at (100% - Parry% - Dodge% - Miss%)
- Block Value tooltip - Block Value should have been included in the default UI, but they didn't so I coded my own function that does it, strength, items, talents(warrior, paladin, shaman) are all considered in the algorithm.
- Mob Damage before Damage Reduction (armor and stance effects)
- Mob Damage after Damage Reduction
- Blocked percentage
- Block Value / Mob Damage after DR
- Block Chance
- Equivalent Block Mitigation
- Block Chance * Blocked percentage:
This can be seen equal with the same amount of dodge or parry.
- Spell TankPoints Tooltip - Shows your strongest school by default
- Your stance
- TankPoints at the following Melee/Spell Damage Ratio
- 25% Melee Damage 75% <school> damage
- 50% Melee Damage 50% <school> damage
- 75% Melee Damage 25% <school> damage
- Can manually cycle through all schools by left clicking the stat
- Reset back to showing the strongest school by right click the stat
- Spell Damage Reduction - Shows your strongest school by default
- Shows damage reductions for all schools
- Same click functions as the Spell TankPoints Tooltip
Supported class talants and buffs
- Warrior: Improved Defensive Stance, Shield Mastery, Shield Wall - Buff, Death Wish - Buff, Recklessness - Buff, Toughness, Vitality
- Druid: Survival of the Fittest, Natural Perfection, Thick Hide, Balance of Power, Heart of the Wild
- Paladin: Shield Specialization, Divine Purpose, Blessed Life, Ardent Defender, Spell Warding, Improved Righteous Fury, Divine Strength, Toughness
- Shaman: Shield Specialization, Elemental Shields, Elemental Warding, Toughness
- Rogue: Sleight of Hand, Heightened Senses, Deadened Nerves, Vitality, Sinister Calling, Cloak of Shadows - Buff
- Hunter: Survival Instincts, Thick Hide, Combat Experience, Lightning Reflexes
- Priest: Shadow Resilience, Spell Warding, Pain Suppression - Buff, Enlightenment
- Hunter: Survivalist, Endurance Training
- Warlock: Demonic Resilience, Master Demonologist, Soul Link - Buff, Demonic Embrace, Fel Stamina
- Mage: Arctic Winds, Prismatic Cloak, Playing with Fire, Frozen Core
Slash Commands
Use: /tp or /tankpoints
- '''/tp''' - Show help
- '''/tp calc''' - Toggle calculator
- '''/tp mob''' - Show mob stats help
- '''/tp mob level (-20 - 20)''' - Sets the level difference between the mob and you
- '''/tp mob damage (0 - 99999)''' - Sets mob's damage before damage reduction
- '''/tp mob default''' - Restores default mob stats
- '''/tp mob advanced''' - Show advanced mob stats help
- '''/tp mob advanced crit (0 - 100)''' - Sets mob's melee crit chance
- '''/tp mob advanced critbonus''' - Sets mob's melee crit bonus
- '''/tp mob advanced miss (0 - 100)''' - Sets mob's melee miss chance
- '''/tp mob advanced spellcrit (0 - 100)''' - Sets mob's spell crit chance
- '''/tp mob advanced spellcritbonus''' - Sets mob's spell crit bonus
- '''/tp mob advanced spellmiss (0 - 100)''' - Sets mob's spell miss chance
- '''/tp player sbfreq (0 - 1000)''' - Sets the Shield Block press delay in seconds after Shield Block finishes cooldown
TankPoints Formulas
TankPoints
Melee Total Reduction
- totalReduction[MELEE] = 1 - ((mobCritChance * (1 + mobCritBonus) * mobCritDamageMod) + (mobCrushChance * 1.5) + (1 - mobCrushChance - mobCritChance - blockChance * blockedMod - parryChance - dodgeChance - mobMissChance)) * (1 - armorReduction) * meleeTakenMod
Spell Total Reduction
- totalReduction[SCHOOL] = 1 - ((mobSpellCritChance * (1 + mobSpellCritBonus) * mobSpellCritDamageMod) + (1 - mobSpellCritChance - mobSpellMissChance)) * (1 - schoolReduction[SCHOOL]) * spellTakenMod
Armor Reduction
levelModifier = attackerLevel if ( levelModifier > 59 ) then levelModifier = levelModifier + (4.5 * (levelModifier - 59)) end armorReductionTemp = armor / ((85 * levelModifier) + 400) armorReduction = armorReductionTemp / (armorReductionTemp + 1) if armorReduction > 0.75 then armorReduction = 0.75 end if armorReduction < 0 then armorReduction = 0 end
Defense Effect
- defenseEffect = (defense - attackerLevel * 5) * 0.04 * 0.01
Block Value From Strength
- blockValueFromStrength = floor(totalStr * 0.5 - 10)
Block Value
- blockValue = floor((floor(totalStr * 0.5 - 10) + blockValueFromItems + blockValueFromShield) * blockValueMod)
Mob Damage (default formula)
- mobDamage = (levelModifier * 55) * meleeTakenMod * (1 - armorReduction)
Resilience Effect
- resilienceEffect = ReverseRating(resilience, playerLevel) * 0.01
Mob Crit Chance
- mobCritChance = max(0, 0.05 - defenseEffect - resilienceEffect)
Mob Crit Bonus
- mobCritBonus = 1
Mob Miss Chance
- mobMissChance = max(0, 0.05 + defenseEffect)
Mob Crush Chance (if mobLevel is +4 or more)
- mobCrushChance = (mobLevel - playerLevel) * 0.1 - 0.15
Mob Crit Damage Mod
- mobCritDamageMod = max(0, 1 - resilienceEffect * 2)
Blocked Mod
- blockedMod = min(1, blockValue / mobDamage)
Mob Spell Crit Chance
- mobSpellCritChance = max(0, 0 - resilienceEffect)
Mob Spell Crit Bonus
- mobSpellCritBonus = 0.5
Mob Spell Miss Chance
- mobSpellMissChance = 0
Mob Spell Crit Damage Mod
- mobSpellCritDamageMod = max(0, 1 - resilienceEffect * 2)
Resistance Reduction
- schoolReduction[SCHOOL] = 0.75 * (resistance[SCHOOL] / (mobLevel * 5))
EffectiveHealth (EH)
- effectiveHealth[MELEE] = playerHealth * 1/(1 - (1-armorReduction) * damageTakenMod)
- effectiveHealth[SCHOOL] = playerHealth * 1/(1 - damageTakenMod) In other words: how much health you have times how much that health translates into raw damage when you're hit
EffectiveHealthWithBlock (EHB)
For every swing of the mob (see mobAtkSpeed) until you are out of health if time to press the shield block button given timeBetweenPresses refresh charges on shield block if mobHitChance + mobCrushChance + mobCritChance == 0 or (charges left and mobHitChance + mobCrushChance + mobCritChance <= 75%) use a charge on shield block min(healthLeft, take raw damage from the monster per mobDamage - blockValue) else min(healthLeft, take raw damage from the monster per mobDamage) end end
TODO
Version History
2.8.4
- toc update
- Packaged with new libraries with 3.2.0 class support
- Block Value is now 2/0.65 per statpoint
- Paladin: Fixed Holy Shield talent location
- Default mob damage at level 83 is now 44165, up from 24365 to match current raid difficulty.
- Fixed TankPoints per Defense Rating calculation
- Fixed Effective Health with Block
2.8.3
- toc update
- Packaged with new libraries with 3.1.3 class support
2.8.2
- NEW: Avoidance diminishing returns calculations in Melee DR tooltip will show you how much avoidance you gain for +16 of each stat.
- Diminishing returns for chance to be missed now supported.
- Paladin: Combat table will now reflect the effects of Holy Shield if you set it at 100% uptime. To set 100% Holy Shield uptime, use a sqfreq lower then or equal to 2 secs, ex: /tp player sbfreq 2
- Fixed Block Value formula
- Can set shield block frequency from 0 secs to 1000 secs, set it to 1000 if you don't want TankPoints to calculate the shield block effect
- Defense isn't affected by DR (Defense Rating is)
- Fixed StatFrame data not updated correctly during stance/presence/form/aura change
- Uses LibStatLogic-1.1 and LibTipHooker-1.1 now
- Made the Calculator movable by dragging the sides
- Support for enchant statmods:
- Enchant: Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle: +2% Stamina
- Enchant: Rune of Spellshattering: Deflects 4% of all spell damage
- Enchant: Rune of Spellbreaking: Deflects 2% of all spell damage
- Support for meta gem statmods:
- Austere Earthsiege Diamond: 2% Increased Armor Value from Items
- MetaGem: Eternal Earthsiege Diamond:+5% Shield Block Value
- MetaGem: Eternal Earthstorm Diamond: +5% Shield Block Value
- MetaGem: Effulgent Skyflare Diamond: Reduce Spell Damage Taken by 2%
- Fixed Warrior talent detection: Vitality, Strength of Arms, Improved Defensive Stance
- Death Knight: Added Stance: Frost Presence detection fixed
- Death Knight: Added Buff: Bone Shield: Damage reduced by 40%.
- 3.0.8: Death Knight: Updated Stance: Frost Presence: The bonus armor has been increased from 60 to 80% and magic damage reduction increased from 5 to 15%.
- 3.0.8: Death Knight: Updated Buff: Bone Shield: Damage reduced by 20%.
- 3.0.8: Death Knight: Updated Buff: Will of the Necropolis: Reduce the damage of any attack that takes the DK below 35% health by 5%/10%/15% instead of boosting armor when wounded.
- 3.0.8: Druid: Updated Talent: Survival of the Fittest: This talent now grants 22/44/66% bonus armor in Bear Form and Dire Bear Form in addition to all of its previous effects.
- 3.0.8: Shaman: Updated Talent: Elemental Warding: Now reduces all damage taken by 2/4/6%.
- Removed Endurance (Tauren racial)
2.8.1
- Support for Warrior talent: Critical Block
- Fixed Shield Block and Holy Shield calculations
- Default mob damage at level 83 is now 24365 instead of 10505
- Fixed a bug causing "ADD_CRIT_TAKEN" from talents to be capped at MobCritChance
- Paladin: Added Talent: Redoubt - Increases your block value by 10%/20%/30%
- Death Knight BaseDodge changed from 0.758% to 3.4636%.
2.8.0
- Avoidance diminishing returns support: Calculator, ItemTooltip, TankPoints Per Stat, TankPoints Per StatValue
- Supports Death Knight: Forceful Deflection - Increases your Parry Rating by 25% of your total Strength
- Added Str to TankPoints Per Stat, TankPoints Per StatValue
- Fixed EffectiveHealth, EffectiveHealthWithBlock
- Fixed Warrior Shield Block calculations
- Support for Paladin Holy Shield
- Crushing blows only happen when mob is +4 levels
- 1 Strength now gives 0.5 Block Value
- Removed Babble-Spell-2.2, Deformat-2.0, Gratuity-2.0
- Fixed immediate errors in 3.0.2
- Calculator: Fixed error
- Code cleanup and stability tweaks
- toc 30000
2.7.0 by Aliset
- NEW: You can specify pre-mitigation mob damage using /tp mob drdamage
- NEW: Ciderhelm's EffectiveHealth and a derived stat, EffectiveHealthWithBlock
- Moved to StatFrameLib-1.0 for paperdoll stat frames
- Alt events didn't seem to be working, so moved to clicks for per-stat/per-rating change
- Consolidated some aspects of TankPoints calculation
- Pretty print many of the large numbers shown (so 789956 shows up as 789,956)
2.6.8
- NEW: You can now open the options window using /tp optionswin
- Fixed: Error in TankPoints.lua:1286 and TankPoints.lua:947
- Updated Korean localizations by fenlis
2.6.7
- Updated Taiwan localization by Whitetooth
- Improved stat scanning
- Updated German localization
2.6.6
- Updated French localization by Tixu, TankPoints Tooltips now works with the French client
- Fixed a bug causing TankPoints tooltips not showing correctly for languages other then English
- Fixed Parry/SpellHaste rating calculations
- Updated libs
2.6.5
- Pre updated the TOC to 2.1.0
- Support for Shield Block skill, with options to set mobs attack speed(default 2.0) and average time between Shield Block key presses(default 8 sec)
- Fixed error when changing options with the Calculator open
2.6.0
- Calculator: Fixed MobLevel calculations
- Better Talant and Buff support
- Improved Block Value calculation
- Code for smooth transition to 2.1.0
- Updated Libs
2.5.7
- Fixed incorrect tooltip values
- Fixed calculater rounding errors
2.5.6
- Fixed library error
2.5.5
- Added StatLogic deDE localizations by Gailly
2.5.4
- Fixed incorrect armor calculations in tooltips for Druilds
- Added Taiwan localizations by CuteMiyu
2.5.3
- Updated Korean localization by fenlis
2.5.2
- Fixed another StatLogic bug
2.5.1
- Fixed StatLogic bug
- Druid Bear Form formulas updated to 2.0.10 fixes
- Updated French localizations by Tixu
- Added Korean localization by fenlis
2.5.0
- Item tooltips will now show TankPoints (only works for English client until localized)
- Removed Compost
- Removed ReverseRating.lua
- Code cleanup and optimizations
2.4.1
- Fixed Calculator Block Value from Strength calculations
2.4.0
- May now input Armor from items and Armor from non items in the Calculator
- Really fixed Night Elf and Feral Swiftness dodge calculations
- Improved accuracy of calculator stat calculations
- Improved calculator support for Druid Forms
- Calculator support for Druid talant * Heart of the Wild, Balance of Power,
- Calculator support for Rogue talant * Cloak of Shadows
- Calculator support for Paladin talant * Toughness
- Calculator support for Hunter talant * Survivalist, Endurance Training
- Calculator support for Warlock talant * Fel Stamina
- Calculator support for health mods
- Support for Death Wish, Recklessness
2.3.5
- Fixed Druid, Hunter and Night Elf dodge calculation bug
- Fixed Druid talant * Survival of the Fittest not being counted bug
- Fixed Paladin talant * Ardent Defender being always on bug
2.3.3
- Fixed Druid Dire Bear Form armor calculations
2.3.2
- Added support for new pally talants: Spell Warding, Improved Righteous Fury
- Updated Libs
2.3.1
- TOC 20003
- Updated Libs
2.3
- Greatly improved the Calculator algorithms
- Calculator: better support for talants that give bonus strength, agility, stamina, armor
- Calculator: better handling for Defense Rating
- Improved TP per StatValue/Stat calculations in TankPoints tooltips
2.2.3
- Fixed low level resistance calculations
- Fixed Druid Bear Form armor bonus
- Plays nice with other mods that may add to the character dropdown list
2.2.2
- Fixed Tauren health error
2.2.1
- Added German localization by AbbedieD
- Improved support for Druid armor bonuses in various forms
- Removed (%) from Defense in Caculator
- Partially updated French localizations
- Updated libs
2.2
- The improved TankPoints Calculator is now in
- Changed Soul Link formula 30% -> 20%
2.1.1
- Fixed TP per defense rating in tooltip again
- Updated French localizations by Tixu
2.1
- Support for various class specific talants and buffs
- Fixed TP per defense rating in tooltip
- PlayerHasShield() localized
- GetBlockValue() localized
- Fixed a couple slash command's option range
- Partial French localizations by Tixu
2.0.1
- Fixed ReverseRating error
- Updated Libs
- Fixed a display bug in TankPoints tooltips
- Fixed Block Value algorithm not working with some shields
- Set Block% to zero if you don't have a shield on
2.0
- Complete rewrite for the 2.0 client using Ace2
Hi whitetooth, thanks for that rewrite :)
here are some strings for french translation
if ( GetLocale() == "frFR" ) then -- Additional tables that need to be localized TP_ItemScan = { [TP_BLOCKVALUE] = { {"Augmente la valeur de blocage de votre bouclier de (%d+)"}, {"+(%d+) Valeur de blocage"}, {"+(%d+) \195\160 la valeur de blocage"}, } } if _G.GetBuildInfo() == '2.0.1' then INNERBLOCK = "Bloquer : (%d+)" else INNERBLOCK = "Bloquer\194\160: (%d+)" end SHIELDNAME = "Boucliers" end
I have added INNERBLOCK, for using it at line 1084 (in tankpoint.lua) local _, _, blockValueFromShield = Gratuity:Find(INNERBLOCK, 4, 6, nil, true)
and SHIELDNAME for using it at line 1069 return itemSubType == SHIELDNAME
because these strings need to be localized.
note, the INNERBLOCK string is different between 2.01 and 2.02 wow version: in 2.02 there is a nonbreaking space, so I have also added a version check.
I miss the tank point dialog for item comparison.
One bug I have found with Tank points is in regards to the druid talent "Survival of the Fittest"
With 3 points in this talent I have a -3% chance to be crit, however tank points is only displaying Crit reduction of 0.88% (from the +22defense gear I have on)
Great to see the rewrite! It's been amusing reading the older comments, I hadn't checked back to realise the Genie I'd unleashed from the bottle with the block stuff! Interesting reading. Anyway, I've got a Protection Paladin now, so will be using TankPoints quite a lot, thanks!
It seems that TP does not give any points for +det after you reach 425. With the lvl 63 Mobs in Naxx I guess this should be increased to 440 to be more accurate?
The link to your version doesnt work anymore =( Anyone know another place to get it? I'd love to try it out.
removed
The newest Theorycraft incorporates my fixes (1.06.5).
However, keep in mind that my version of TankPoints is very flawed as the initial TankPoints fork by Kinesia seems to overvalue block massively. It's very useful for displaying +block% and +block_value, but it doesn't feel right. I'm sure with a lot of thinking a good methodology for figuring out a good TankPoints value of block can be figured out, but until then the best we have is a rough stab.
Aside from Bonestriker's version, are there any plans on updating Tankpoints in the near future?
Also, Bonestriker...are your block changes in the new version of TheoryCraft or should we continue to use your version?
Maybe it is possible to make an Addon for offensive Warriors? Should be look like Tank pionts. Would be cool :-)
My tankpoints do not change when I change my block%. Is it because it´s not implemented yet or are there some other explanation?
Otherwise, thanx for a great addon! Keep up the good work!
Just a quick question.
Does this factor in classes? I was wondering if it could be used by a rogue for example to see effects gained by gear, or is it basically set up for just warriors?
Tacitucs, +5 dodge isn't 5% more mitagation.
If you have 50% AC reduction, 50%parry, 50% block mitagation, and 50% dodge mitagation (crazy numbers for easy math) you have 93.75% mitagation. Repeat with 55% dodge and you get 94.38% total mitagation. Could it be that your using combat monitor or such to see that you get 5% of total mitagation from blocking?
There is a feature in Healpoints that I really liked. Whenever you moused over an item, there would be a line in the tooltip that would show the difference in Healpoints between that item and the one you currently had equipped. Would it be possible to fo that for Tank Points? I don't know how hard that would be to do but it would save some time instead of having to go in and fiddle with the calculator
According to Satrina, and confirmed by myself and others, using the ability Shield Block, if your Block% is 25 or higher, effectively removes BOTH critical hits and crushing blows from the combat results table.
Yuriken, that 25% number is widely passed around and is bogus. Unless your avoidance is really awful, no additional +block% is needed for Shield Block to negate crits/crushes. The reason is that all it takes is a combined 25% avoidance to have Shield Block "fill" the table and push crits/crushes off, as it's easy to get to 25% with dodge, parry, and miss. The folks that parrot the "25% block + 75% shield block" number don't understand that there's a single combat table, and avoidance is always on it.
HP/Stamina is a large factor in tankpoints - but I wouldn't say HPs are the most important MT stat, but a good balance is necessary between mitigation and health. That is of course a different argument for a different thread.
You shouldn't manually alter the weight that different stats give you in TankPoints, as TP is a model of how much damage you can take before you die against an average hitting mob. Because that average hitting mob is also used in the added block feature - it can incorrectly skew your survivability. If you can block more damage than the average mob can hit for - you'll only take damage on hits you don't block - and if the average hitting mob only attacks at 2.5 speed or slower, you will never take damage if you constantly can keep up shield block. Of course - this sort of calculation is great when soloing, but it doesn't really have a factor for the average hitting raid boss.
More HPs protect from spike damage or are great for mobs which you can't mitigate through normal means (caster bosses, large magic damage bosses.) But better mitigation (Armor, Dodge/Parry/Block, Defense/Crit Reduction, etc.) are preferred over just having huge HPs. TP helps you find a good balance.
No idea about the big negative number in your second post though.
Also why does tankpoints calculator now show this huge negative number in its calculation line?
For instance:
Tankpoints: 83860 + -41930(in red) = 41930 (in red)
What is the signficance of this negative number? Shouldnt it be ZERO until some values are added to the tank points calculator input boxes?
Bonstirkers code edited verson below seems to work fine. But 7k tank points for 5% addtional mitigation seems astronomical since, for example +5 dodge doesnt reach anywhere near 7k.
My main concern about this mod as a whole as i think it does not value hitpoints enough. Hitpoints are the most important MT stat.
Could somone point me to the file/line where the tankpoints value is set for HPs? Im thinking they probably should be set at X2 the current value that tankpoints gives hp.
According to Satrina, and confirmed by myself and others, using the ability Shield Block, if your Block% is 25 or higher, effectively removes BOTH critical hits and crushing blows from the combat results table. That's a serious way to reduce and mitigate damage which is difficult to calculate, because its effectiveness varies based on the attack speed of the attacking mob as well as on the user's religious use of the Shield Block ability.
I think, though, for the purposes of TankPoints, and to make it similar to how dodge and parry are factored in, actual block mitigation should be a combination of your block value and your block% while *not* using abilities like shield block - this also makes it equally useful for other shield classes and takes out the math and worry involved with checking talents etc.
Speaking from the standpoint of a warrior - my shield is only as effective as I choose to make it. This requires active playing much more than standing still and spamming sunder. A tank using shield block religiously will take a TON less damage from melee mobs, and not because of the damage blocked by their shield, but the elimination of critical hits and crushing blows.
If you monitor fights where you don't use shield block, you'll find you get crit/crushed at the averages, 5% crit and 15% crush or so against 63s. You'll find the only way you can actually put a dent in either of those numbers is by using Shield Block always. You can add all the best +%block/dodge/parry you like and you can't touch those numbers without using that special ability.
That's why its so dang tough to factor in Blocking to TankPoints - because it is more or less effective based on the user AND the mob.
I'm going to try out your updated version tonite Bonestriker, I'm interested to see how it does.
Good job Kinesia. I went ahead and modified your version, using TheoryCraft's function to get the block value.
We could lift their equipment parsing code and incorporate it into TankPoints, but the work to do that was beyond my time and probably my talents (I'm a sysadmin, I only hack other people's work :).
What I'm curious is this though - are these numbers accurate? I went from 24k to 31k tankpoints when factoring in block. The tooltip shows about a 5% increase in overall damage reduction, which seems accurate given my CombatMonitor results that show about a 5% total mitigation from blocks. However does +5% really translate into 7k more points?
Anyhow, discuss. Linked below is the version I modified. Keep in mind that currently TheoryCraft miscalculates block slightly (doesn't grab ZG enchants and doesn't floor the strength contribution). I've fixed both of those problems and submitted them to the author, though I have my fixed version linked below as well.
http://www.eldertribunal.com/TankPoints.zip http://www.eldertribunal.com/TheoryCraft.zip